Jason Talmage & Ki Oren-Talmage file!

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I am now of the firm belief that the following JASON TALMAGE & KI OREN-TALMAGE are in fact one and the same person, I do have to say that I am extremely concerned at what is being posted by this person on both the walls, there is an ongoing discussion on their respective wall that if it were true it would be a desperate and CLEAR & PRESENT matter of child abuse/child endangerment. But the truth is much clearer, the story of physical abuse is just that is evidently just a story. The purpose of that story is lure unsuspecting young people into becoming friends with the above named person, there is a special word for this behaviour and that is GROOMING.

As of the time of posting this approx 15.45 PM GMT on Thursday 08th December 2011, all the posts were still on both parties facebook wall, I have just copied and pasted them into a text file, which I will post as EVIDENCE of wrong doing and as EVIDENCE of ONLINE GROOMING via Facebook.

Now I cannot and I never would try and tell people what or who to believe, but all I can do is lay out the EVIDENCE, both CLEARLY & HONESTLY, it is up to you to decide whom and what you wish to believe. Sadly I know many of you are far to trusting, but that is a matter for you. Lastly let me say this, I have NOT reported any of these profiles to Facebook, but I know facebook staff can and do visit these forums on a daily basis and several times a day too. So they will be able to decide what action they wish to take and when, that is a decision solely for facebook and for them alone.


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Below is a link to the *UPDATED* Watch List entry for JASON TALMAGE & KI OREN-TALMAGE:

http://thewatchlistforum.freeforumshosting.info/t467-the-jason-talmage-ki-oren-talmage-watch-list-entry#660


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PLEASE NOTE: I will copy and paste the contents of those wall comments later on this evening, when I have more time to make the text presentable, I will however only format the copied text, IT WILL NOT BE EDITED or REDACTED in any way! They will be posted as further replies to this post in chronological (date/time) order. So please see below for further information.

GarryP
Site Owner/Admin

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Jason Talmage: Son go through your friends list and delete people now or I will do it while you're at the storr tomorrow with Liam. I'm very pissed now at some of the people calling themselves your friends
3 December at 03:51 near Fort Myers, FL ·

Ki Oren-Talmage: what happened
3 December at 03:51 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: You need to rethink who you call friends
3 December at 03:52 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: what somebody do
3 December at 03:52 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: and who
3 December at 03:52 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: I'll just say that I was told to "FUCK OFF AND STAY AWAY" from you.
3 December at 03:53 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: who said that
3 December at 03:53 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: You know who. He's still faking being your friend
3 December at 03:54 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: OK ill delete him in a few minutes
3 December at 03:54 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: I will know if you dont and I will shut the modum off and you wont be online for a week
3 December at 03:55 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: and i be im the hospital if u do
3 December at 03:55 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: u no whatll hapone
3 December at 03:55 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: Than you'll just be there until you get over it son
3 December at 03:56 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: im not ur son
3 December at 03:56 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: yes u r
3 December at 03:56 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: mom and dad are dead im nobodys son
3 December at 03:57 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: NOT TRUE YOU ARE MY SON. Just as much as Liam, Terry, Ki-T or Nico. Always my son
3 December at 03:58 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: Ki listen to Jason he has your best interests at heart and he loves you I know that
3 December at 04:05 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: im just tired of being called son and little boy and baby by everybody
3 December at 04:06 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage I'm coming to your room now and going through yout frinds now
3 December at 04:07 · Add Friend

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Jason Talmage: We're in route to the Lee Memoral again. Ki started having a series panick attcks and a seizure again after talking to a fake boy he calls a friend. Please when he gets back don't fight.
3 December at 16:05 near Fort Myers, FL ·

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Jason Talmage: PLEASE READ: Contrary to what some of you may believe it is NOT abuse when a parent spanks a child. It is simply discipline and in Ki’s case he need to learn who and what real friends are. That’s why he got the belt last night and again this morning. I have also chosen to ground him to his room for the week or until he can show me that people he calls friends are real and not some adult acting like and abused child. I have had more then enough of some of you calling yourselves real when you are not. That Mickah Avery Stevens boy in my best opinion is fake and as a result I have deleted him from my sons friends list. If you are fake I will delete you too from his friends unless you tell him or I that you are the boy in the pictures he see like that Brent Karith guy that’s always requesting to be friends. For those of you that are real you have nothing to worry about you can remain friends with my son. Right now I have a few of you that I question about if you really are the child in the photos he is seeing because like Ki I have been asking questions to his other friends so I know some of you are on pornography websites pretending to be the same boy in the photos. I will not say who they are for now but in one week I will if someone dose not prove to my son those boys are real and not in danger of being abused but a relative, caregiver or anyone else. I am not saying that you have to cam for him, what I am saying show him or me that you are the person in the photos because I do read his chat logs and I know some of you use terminology that only adults use and in particular law enforcement and mental health professionals.
4 December at 16:44 near Fort Myers, FL ·

Jason Talmage: likes this.

Jason Talmage: Son things have to be this way for now. It's called tough love. You'll understand one day.
4 December at 16:50 · 1 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage im not ur son and i dont want to live here anymore. stay away from me
4 December at 18:23 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: yea and posting shit like this on his wall isnt cool there are some things that a personal and people dont need to see this
4 December at 18:26 · 1 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: i dont think that you needed to tell EVERYONE he knows that he got the belt, cmon Jason use your judgement
4 December at 18:28 · Add Friend

Ej Enterline: ki.i love u bro. jason i am his real friend ok. i.dont want ki hurt. i agree with discipline but spanking a kid fragile as ki i dont think.is wise. what id the spanking causes a seizure
Monday at 01:46 · Add Friend

Ej Enterline: if*
Monday at 01:46 · Add Friend

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Jason Talmage: Some of have had a lot to say about the way discipline my son. Here’s the deal. He get five to twelve swat across the ass, enough for him to learn. He may cry and have a red ass but I never blister his ass like other fasters have. I don’t believe in abuse of any kind but there are times when a child as troubled as Ki need few swats across his bare ass.
4 December at 20:54 near Fort Myers, FL ·

Jason Talmage: likes this.

Ki Oren-Talmage: stay away from me or ull never see me again. i mean it ill leave
4 December at 20:55 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: nobody is arguing that jason! the problem i have is the fact that your announcing it for everybody to see, what you do is your choice and nobody needs to know about it
4 December at 20:57 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: Yes sir thay do need to know becasue I don't need him saying hes being abused by me. Right now hes got twelve more coming later.
4 December at 20:59 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: y is that necissary he deleted the fakes so its not called for and he never told anybody u abuse him
4 December at 21:00 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: touch my ass again and ill fucking run right now stay away from me jason ur not my dad hes dead
4 December at 21:01 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: but if you keep doing that to him than ur gonna push him away and is that something u want?
4 December at 21:01 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: maybe the bare hand would be better
4 December at 21:02 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: Get ur ass over here now boy we're going to talk one way or the other
4 December at 21:02 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: maybe sitting and talkin and not hitting would be better
4 December at 21:03 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: u have order me and call me worthless cumrag u no good ass hiole
4 December at 21:03 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: Jason he isnt a slave
4 December at 21:04 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: BOY YOUR ASS IS MINE NOW! I'LL COME TO YOUR ROOM AND IT BETTER NOT BE LOCKED<
4 December at 21:04 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: Fuck off and die
4 December at 21:05 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: Hes banging on the door
4 December at 21:05 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: just get it over with ki and dont fight it
4 December at 21:06 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: dw itws was only about 20 i think i stoped counting after 15 what they harder
4 December at 21:15 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: what will stop him from doing it to u i think he is slap happy
4 December at 21:16 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: dw if he putme jail that i got to jail
4 December at 21:18 · Add Friend

Stevo Black: That is how my dad is i get my ass hit a few times trust me do the right think why lie it makes it wross trust me i been there
4 December at 21:18 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: i havent lied
4 December at 21:18 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: i just add fakes as frinds
4 December at 21:19 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: I'm not going to call the police on you son but we will have another conversation about the way just just split my lip after i disiplined you
4 December at 21:22 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: well dont fuck with me casue next time im not going to be ur fucking bitch ur just liek rogeer
4 December at 21:23 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: well what was your reasoning behing this one jason?
4 December at 21:23 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: THE HELL I AM AND YOU KNOW IT. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO APOLOGIZE OR I'M OVER THERE AGAIN
4 December at 21:24 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: im not soory i never will be sorry to u i hate u
4 December at 21:25 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: Mickah is real and so is Danny and so is Jackson
4 December at 21:26 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: well gotta give u credit for knoesty at least he isnt lying jason
4 December at 21:26 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: no kyle i did lie to one night
4 December at 21:27 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: when shane was wanting pics of me and avery jason said i can say im him so ppl will leave me alone
4 December at 21:27 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: about what?
4 December at 21:27 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: ok
4 December at 21:28 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: i told shane i had a seisure and pretendeed to be jason but he knew casue i cant speel as good as jason so i lied
4 December at 21:28 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: oh
4 December at 21:29 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: i soory i lied im soory so many ppl hate me and sorry im a worthlees piece of shit
4 December at 21:30 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: i love u ki
4 December at 21:30 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: your not worthless at all u mean a lot to me i love you
4 December at 21:31 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage:‎2 1/2 mre year and i dont have to put of with life
4 December at 21:32 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: grrrrrrrrrr
4 December at 21:32 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: I'm coming back ove
4 December at 21:36 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: touch me and ill cut u with razor
4 December at 21:37 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: Do Not Threaten Me Son
4 December at 21:37 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: I PROMISE I WILL U LIED TO ME WHEN U SAID UD NEVER BEAT ME OR HURT ME
4 December at 21:38 · 1 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: jason all ur doing is threatning a 12 yo
4 December at 21:38 · 1 · Add Friend

Jason Talmage: I never lied to you I only gave you a few swats
4 December at 21:38 · Add Friend

Ki Oren-Talmage: well my have blistes on my ass so fuck off
4 December at 21:39 · Add Friend

Kyle Richards: over and over and over again that all not that bad
4 December at 21:39 · Add Friend

Timothy Soopahdad Manson: JASON U LAY ONE MORE HAND ON HIM U WILL BE DEALINGWITH E U UNDERSTAND DONT U DARE TOUCH MY LIL BRO!!
4 December at 21:47

Ki Oren-Talmage: ill be ok
4 December at 21:49 · Add Friend

Timothy Soopahdad Manson: Abuse shouldnt be allowed whats so ever
4 December at 21:51

Rod Tyreece: OMFG Jason u just fucked ur wad now Ki will never trust u. and if u touch him I will fuck u up.
Monday at 01:06 · 2 · Add Friend

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Jason Talmage: Posted to Ki Oren-Talmage
Ki please listen to me, son. I fucked up very badly with you and I know it. I still want you as my son. You are apart of our family and always will be. We all miss you. First I was wrong for what I did and you need to know a few things that no one has told you about me. First after work I did have a couple of drinks and one was bought by that drag queen. I wasn’t watching when she brought the drink to me. I has a blood test done and she laced my drink, what that means is she drugged me. I know you’ve seen in the news earlier this year and last year in Naples there was a lot of that going on. Second the reason I have chosen to adopt boys IS NOT because I’m gay and in the closet. I AM very straight. I did take care of a few girls over the years and they were more of a handful then any of the boys I have eve taken care of until you came to live here. I realize you have some very serious issues you are dealing with. Some are more serious than you face book friends will ever know or imagine. It’s still a good thing that you at least talk to them when you wont talk to anyone else. But I need to be very careful DO NOT ADD anyone right now unless more than one of you trusted friends knows them and I don mean knows them. In September one of the kids in your friends told you his father was a cop and that was the truth but what he did not tell you was his father uses him to get kids to trust them so his father track them down. I’m sorry we DID NOT tell you son. But this man is stalking you. Right now you are going to be moved again in a weeks time to help you stay safe. Both Ki-T and Terry are with friends of mine out of state soon Nico will be joining them. Right now I DO NOT want you to try and contact any of including Rod or Andre. It’s not safe and Rod knows what going on. I talked to him this morning and he agrees with me. If you see ANYONE you DO NOT know around you and things DO NOT feel right get the HELL AWAY from there.

I’m very sorry for every taking the belt to you and I will make that up to you some how. And damn you hit hard when you rage son. But that is and always be my fault. I am so very sorry for all of this. If you do decide to come back when it’s safe we will not pick up where we left off. We need to start all over and build up trust and I mean real trust. That’s something you did not have in any of us and you still don’t. What I am saying is that when we gave you the love you should have received in your other homes you began to trust us based on that love when you should have taken months to build up the levels of trust you placed on us.

Also son please let Mickah know that I do not think he is fake not the Mickah you dated but the other Mickah is I do how ever think there is a chance that he could be your other friend Danny. Now as far as Tyreece goes I am uncertain if he is in fact the child you talk to 100% of the time. I will not ask for proof from him. I have seen the video that he put on his wall. I AM very sorry both of those boys go through hell because some pedophile adult make a fake page up and pretends to be them. I the cases of two of your friends it seems to family members that do it the most. You know who they are. But in the others case I would say it’s people like Shane. Please let them know I AM VERY SORRY to them and you. I will see you tomorrow at Lee Memorial. I love you Malachi Oren.

- Jason Talmage
Tuesday at 17:06 ·

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Jason Talmage: ALERT Please read: All of you. I am very sorry for what I did to my son. You need to know they are a lot deep issues going on the major one right now is Ki has a stalker. Please if he asks you about someone tell him if you know them and remind him not to add them if no one else knows them. I have placed my younger sons in the care of trusted friends out of state, Nico will follow shortly. We know the stalker is here in Fort Myers and the police are looking for him as we speak. Some of the names the stalker has used on face book are Michael Small, Mick Biggs, Mickey Smallboy and Mick Smallwood.
Tuesday at 17:16 · 2 · Add Friend


Tommey Tom: The few get him out of there
Tuesday at 18:17 · Add Friend

Tommey Tom: ‎*then
Tuesday at 18:18 · Add Friend

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Jason Talmage via Kyle Richards
ALERT Please read: All of you. I am very sorry for what I did to my son. You need to know they are a lot deep issues going on the major one right now is Ki has a stalker. Please if he asks you about someone tell him if you know them and remind him not to add them if no one else knows them. I have placed my younger sons in the care of trusted friends out of state, Nico will follow shortly. We know the stalker is here in Fort Myers and the police are looking for him as we speak. Some of the names the stalker has used on face book are Michael Small, Mick Biggs, Mickey Smallboy and Mick Smallwood.
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Tuesday at 18:21 near Burlington, VT

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